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	<title>Comments on: The Social Web &#8211; Waste of Time or Killer Faith App?</title>
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		<title>By: Brent Harshbarger</title>
		<link>http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/05/08/the-social-web-waste-of-time-or-killer-faith-app/#comment-2939</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Harshbarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is that we need to use all the tools available to us for the purpose of ministering to each other. 

With that said; some would considered me as one who is slow to engage in some of the social networking sites. But then again, I have been using them since I first connected to the online world at 300 baud. They were called bulletin boards back then, or so I recall. The only difference is that there are now more people online, better tools to connect us together, and let&#039;s not forget how much the use of multimedia has helped us engage.

I do share Ryan&#039;s concern about the disconnect between our live and virtual lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that we need to use all the tools available to us for the purpose of ministering to each other. </p>
<p>With that said; some would considered me as one who is slow to engage in some of the social networking sites. But then again, I have been using them since I first connected to the online world at 300 baud. They were called bulletin boards back then, or so I recall. The only difference is that there are now more people online, better tools to connect us together, and let&#8217;s not forget how much the use of multimedia has helped us engage.</p>
<p>I do share Ryan&#8217;s concern about the disconnect between our live and virtual lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Brown</title>
		<link>http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/05/08/the-social-web-waste-of-time-or-killer-faith-app/#comment-2936</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Cynthia,  I particularly like your point about the nature of church involving community.  Community is our business in a way, and consequently you would think migrating to using online community tools would be easier..  but the key difference is that church mostly prefers face to face contact within a geographically defined space (parish, regional mission field and so on).  Now we are facing the possibility that you never physically meet someone and the community may well be spread across the world.

So this requires some fundamental shifts in thinking for the church.. here is praying that we as the church don&#039;t bunker down but embrace the dialog going forward.

I recently wrote a piece that explores some of this called &#039;Christian Mission to a Virtual World&#039; that can be downloaded at: http://brownblog.info/?p=381</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Cynthia,  I particularly like your point about the nature of church involving community.  Community is our business in a way, and consequently you would think migrating to using online community tools would be easier..  but the key difference is that church mostly prefers face to face contact within a geographically defined space (parish, regional mission field and so on).  Now we are facing the possibility that you never physically meet someone and the community may well be spread across the world.</p>
<p>So this requires some fundamental shifts in thinking for the church.. here is praying that we as the church don&#8217;t bunker down but embrace the dialog going forward.</p>
<p>I recently wrote a piece that explores some of this called &#8216;Christian Mission to a Virtual World&#8217; that can be downloaded at: <a href="http://brownblog.info/?p=381" rel="nofollow">http://brownblog.info/?p=381</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan - Dallas!

Jarrod - I&#039;ll check out hellotxt.com - microblogging status updates is taking off.

Hi Rich - the iGeneration sees the &quot;connected&quot; world as normative.  The ability to network, socialize, interact &amp; engage is embedded in their perception of how the world works, at least on this side of the Digital Divide.  Most youth are all already spending time there daily, as you&#039;ve said.  

As Christian leaders, we don&#039;t have to manipulate or control social networking. All we have to do, is avoid rejecting &quot;their world&quot; and be open to the electronic interaction without minimizing it&#039;s very significant impact on the next generation.

Loved your input at Church 2.0 and all that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sunridgechurch.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunridge&lt;/a&gt; is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan &#8211; Dallas!</p>
<p>Jarrod &#8211; I&#8217;ll check out hellotxt.com &#8211; microblogging status updates is taking off.</p>
<p>Hi Rich &#8211; the iGeneration sees the &#8220;connected&#8221; world as normative.  The ability to network, socialize, interact &#038; engage is embedded in their perception of how the world works, at least on this side of the Digital Divide.  Most youth are all already spending time there daily, as you&#8217;ve said.  </p>
<p>As Christian leaders, we don&#8217;t have to manipulate or control social networking. All we have to do, is avoid rejecting &#8220;their world&#8221; and be open to the electronic interaction without minimizing it&#8217;s very significant impact on the next generation.</p>
<p>Loved your input at Church 2.0 and all that <a href="http://www.sunridgechurch.org/" rel="nofollow">Sunridge</a> is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/05/08/the-social-web-waste-of-time-or-killer-faith-app/#comment-2930</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 06:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have personally found social networking sites as effective tools in connecting with people in my own church, community and like-minded people all over the nation and even internationally.  Really, how different is this than letters written between parties?  My wife and I got to know each other through snail mail. Indeed, there are problems, but the benefits are real.  

Another point is that the younger set is already deep in this stuff.  If we do not use it, we might as well give up on our kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have personally found social networking sites as effective tools in connecting with people in my own church, community and like-minded people all over the nation and even internationally.  Really, how different is this than letters written between parties?  My wife and I got to know each other through snail mail. Indeed, there are problems, but the benefits are real.  </p>
<p>Another point is that the younger set is already deep in this stuff.  If we do not use it, we might as well give up on our kids!</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod Skeggs</title>
		<link>http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/05/08/the-social-web-waste-of-time-or-killer-faith-app/#comment-2928</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Skeggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your assessment is right on the button. Our firm has more or less by necessity  begun engaging in more Web 2.0/Social Networking consulting with the church and missions organizations. We began our business on the premise of doing a lot of Podcast consulting several years back and as the church has realized the power of Social Networking, we also realized that power and are helping the church leverage that in order to deepen existing relationships and foster new ones.

I have personally noticed here of late that, because I am keeping my &quot;status&quot; updated 24/7 that this is creating new links and commonalities with my &quot;online friends&quot;. For instance wall comments left for me on my Facebook are largely driven by my status updates. Thanks to hellotxt.com, I can update almost all of my accounts with one swipe. Bottom line, this ability to update and really become seamless across many networks is probably getting very close, and will probably be a great benefit to everyone involved in online community.

I appreciate your thoughts and assessments Cynthia. Keep up the excellent work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your assessment is right on the button. Our firm has more or less by necessity  begun engaging in more Web 2.0/Social Networking consulting with the church and missions organizations. We began our business on the premise of doing a lot of Podcast consulting several years back and as the church has realized the power of Social Networking, we also realized that power and are helping the church leverage that in order to deepen existing relationships and foster new ones.</p>
<p>I have personally noticed here of late that, because I am keeping my &#8220;status&#8221; updated 24/7 that this is creating new links and commonalities with my &#8220;online friends&#8221;. For instance wall comments left for me on my Facebook are largely driven by my status updates. Thanks to hellotxt.com, I can update almost all of my accounts with one swipe. Bottom line, this ability to update and really become seamless across many networks is probably getting very close, and will probably be a great benefit to everyone involved in online community.</p>
<p>I appreciate your thoughts and assessments Cynthia. Keep up the excellent work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia,
I think that there is a strange disconnect between the way we live our lives in the real world versus online. In reality we seem to be growing farther apart (relationally and geographically), while online we are growing closer together (relationally and in terms of ease of connection).
So, I don&#039;t think that the social web is a waste of time, but for many people it may seem a bit surreal.
I&#039;m not the same on myspace as I am on facebook because my friends are different (probably 60% overlap). For those of us who grew up with this technology the adaptation is fairly natural. For those who are just now learning, I think that the adoption process will be slow.
In short, the technology is great. MySpace is not the devil. But it&#039;s  going to be a long time until the technology becomes pervasive and the church feels comfortable using it. Sometimes its hard for us to remember that we&#039;re still early adopters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia,<br />
I think that there is a strange disconnect between the way we live our lives in the real world versus online. In reality we seem to be growing farther apart (relationally and geographically), while online we are growing closer together (relationally and in terms of ease of connection).<br />
So, I don&#8217;t think that the social web is a waste of time, but for many people it may seem a bit surreal.<br />
I&#8217;m not the same on myspace as I am on facebook because my friends are different (probably 60% overlap). For those of us who grew up with this technology the adaptation is fairly natural. For those who are just now learning, I think that the adoption process will be slow.<br />
In short, the technology is great. MySpace is not the devil. But it&#8217;s  going to be a long time until the technology becomes pervasive and the church feels comfortable using it. Sometimes its hard for us to remember that we&#8217;re still early adopters.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the comments section being down all day - was in the middle of the WP 2.5.1 upgrade. Got the emails &amp; chats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the comments section being down all day &#8211; was in the middle of the WP 2.5.1 upgrade. Got the emails &#038; chats.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Technology and Media Carnival: First Edition &#124; The Kingdom 2.0</title>
		<link>http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/05/08/the-social-web-waste-of-time-or-killer-faith-app/#comment-2922</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Technology and Media Carnival: First Edition &#124; The Kingdom 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of social networking and how it relates to the mission of the church in her article &#8220;The Social Web: Waste of Time or Killer Faith App?&#8221; Cynthia is one of the early adopters of the technology of blogging to the Kingdom, and we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of social networking and how it relates to the mission of the church in her article &#8220;The Social Web: Waste of Time or Killer Faith App?&#8221; Cynthia is one of the early adopters of the technology of blogging to the Kingdom, and we [...]</p>
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