Comments on: 10 Challenges facing the Church in Cyberspace http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/ Church technology news. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:17:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Fortuitous Bouncing « man.of.depravity http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-6982 Fortuitous Bouncing « man.of.depravity Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:21:31 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-6982 [...] 10 challenges the church must overcome on its way to using the internet to advance the kingdom. [...] [...] 10 challenges the church must overcome on its way to using the internet to advance the kingdom. [...]

]]> By: » Kickstarting Your Church’s Online Community http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-5635 » Kickstarting Your Church’s Online Community Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:26:46 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-5635 [...] Second, Cynthia Ware has a post 10 Challenges Facing the Church in Cyberspace [...] [...] Second, Cynthia Ware has a post 10 Challenges Facing the Church in Cyberspace [...]

]]> By: I Link di Religione 2.0 - 01.09.2008Ora di Religione 2.0 - Insegnare Religione con il Web 2.0 - Insegnamento della Religione - : Religione 2.0 - Religion 2.0 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-5159 I Link di Religione 2.0 - 01.09.2008Ora di Religione 2.0 - Insegnare Religione con il Web 2.0 - Insegnamento della Religione - : Religione 2.0 - Religion 2.0 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:03:49 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-5159 [...] l’Ora di Religione 3) Un preside convoca l’imam per insegnare il Corano ai professori 4) 10 sfide per la Chiesa nel Cyberspazio (articolo in inglese) 5) 101 strumenti gratuiti per l’istruzione (presentazione powerpoint in [...] [...] l’Ora di Religione 3) Un preside convoca l’imam per insegnare il Corano ai professori 4) 10 sfide per la Chiesa nel Cyberspazio (articolo in inglese) 5) 101 strumenti gratuiti per l’istruzione (presentazione powerpoint in [...]

]]> By: In the Coracle » » links for 2008-08-27 » “It’s almost like you’re writing a book one post at a time” - Kedge http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4956 In the Coracle » » links for 2008-08-27 » “It’s almost like you’re writing a book one post at a time” - Kedge Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:41:22 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4956 [...] 10 Challenges facing the Church in Cyberspace | The Digital Sanctuary (tags: socialnetworking christianity) [...] [...] 10 Challenges facing the Church in Cyberspace | The Digital Sanctuary (tags: socialnetworking christianity) [...]

]]> By: Cynthia http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4923 Cynthia Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:46:50 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4923 yes, I'm listening..... yes, I’m listening…..

]]> By: ARJWright http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4917 ARJWright Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:59 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4917 Conventional models of accountability, justice, and even content mangement don't work in a virtual setting. The rules are as different as the people who are plugging together the bits and bytes. Non-Christian enterprises have the same issues when they try and pull a paper system into an Intranet. There are things that do work (accountability, checks and balances) and things that need to be totally redone (expectations, security, workflows, etc.). Mitigating dysfuntion online is no more easy than doing it offline; its actually harder because the action of being online is built on a principle of escapism and masked accountability. There is NO media that has ever had at its core the engine of its content and audience as having these issues. If you want to make a healthy group offline, you have to work twice as hard and usually break personal privacy laws in order to make good health a reality and not a pipe dream. The mention of finances was to Vince's aspect of the comment. Finances are needed to do very little online (until a certain point), momentum is the rest. That's simple marketing and what anything successful online or offline has used. If the Body would take simple wisdom in sharing things like connectivity, server space, and application services just the same way they share city blocks then its even less of an issue for the institution, and more of a facilitator to the community for the individual. Conventional models of accountability, justice, and even content mangement don’t work in a virtual setting. The rules are as different as the people who are plugging together the bits and bytes. Non-Christian enterprises have the same issues when they try and pull a paper system into an Intranet. There are things that do work (accountability, checks and balances) and things that need to be totally redone (expectations, security, workflows, etc.).

Mitigating dysfuntion online is no more easy than doing it offline; its actually harder because the action of being online is built on a principle of escapism and masked accountability. There is NO media that has ever had at its core the engine of its content and audience as having these issues. If you want to make a healthy group offline, you have to work twice as hard and usually break personal privacy laws in order to make good health a reality and not a pipe dream.

The mention of finances was to Vince’s aspect of the comment. Finances are needed to do very little online (until a certain point), momentum is the rest. That’s simple marketing and what anything successful online or offline has used. If the Body would take simple wisdom in sharing things like connectivity, server space, and application services just the same way they share city blocks then its even less of an issue for the institution, and more of a facilitator to the community for the individual.

]]> By: Vince http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4916 Vince Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:37:57 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4916 I guess i am saying that weak spots are found in every church on the planet I guess i am saying that weak spots are found in every church on the planet

]]> By: tonysteward http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4915 tonysteward Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:28:19 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4915 If you don't have a healthy process to take care of the people that are physically present, then why on earth would you extend that same brokenness online to continue to over promise and under deliver? It would be foolish to do so. If you don’t have a healthy process to take care of the people that are physically present, then why on earth would you extend that same brokenness online to continue to over promise and under deliver?

It would be foolish to do so.

]]> By: Vince http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4914 Vince Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:25:56 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4914 @tony i mostly agree that being healthy is important, but God can work in the midst of our shortcomings too. like Solomon said..."if you wait for perfect conditions, you will never get anything done" @tony i mostly agree that being healthy is important, but God can work in the midst of our shortcomings too. like Solomon said…”if you wait for perfect conditions, you will never get anything done”

]]> By: tonysteward http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/2008/08/26/10-challenges-facing-the-church-in-cyberspace/#comment-4912 tonysteward Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:17:02 +0000 http://thedigitalsanctuary.org/?p=657#comment-4912 @arjwright I don't see where I asserted that finances or conventional thinking had anything to do with extending a ministry online. And even if a tool is free, if a church isn't healthy or growing they shouldn't also be unhealthy and stagnant online - there are bigger issues afoot. That said, conventional models of what? New Media has made the web more relational, which makes it suitable for the type of relational approaches of ministry have been effective since Jesus' day. The tools that are used, and how we jump into them are very different though. @arjwright I don’t see where I asserted that finances or conventional thinking had anything to do with extending a ministry online. And even if a tool is free, if a church isn’t healthy or growing they shouldn’t also be unhealthy and stagnant online – there are bigger issues afoot. That said, conventional models of what?

New Media has made the web more relational, which makes it suitable for the type of relational approaches of ministry have been effective since Jesus’ day. The tools that are used, and how we jump into them are very different though.

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